Why Smells and Bells in the Orthodox Church? Do they Worship ICONS?


Father Justin, Head Priest over Sts.Peter and Paul’s Orthodox Church in SLC, provides reasons behind the smells and bells and why they don’t worship Icons. This will help you understand the Ancient Church and it’s beliefs. Please Share. God Bless You All.
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Dave Bartosiewicz

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33 Comments

  1. Glenn Barrett says:

    The apostle Paul would call the church that uses candles and smells, as sensual having not the Spirit.

  2. Catmatix M says:

    I came to learn the meaning of these things only now since I became orthodox that the Roman church never explained to us. I thank the Lord.

  3. James Wiliams says:

    Is There a Higher Theology For Man, Than Knowing God personally -person to PERSON?

    There are those today who live in not so distant places that have a real life person to Person relationship with Lord Jesus!
    These humble words that are shared with brotherly love and respect, point out to the kind of relationship man was made to have with our Lord Jesus Christ. The following paragraphs, where taken from the book of Metropolitan Hierotheos of Nafpaktos Entreaty” (Paraklitika), and it is a knowledge that must be shared with all those who have Lord Jesus Christ as their Heavenly Father.
    “Those who have made their selves worthy to see God are the True Theologians. Saint Gregorios the Theologian taught that those who saw God like Apostle Paul can safely theologize, because the sight of God cleanse them from all fantasy, and renders them true preachers of the truth making them explicitly different from philosophers and philosophies”.
    This is how the Saints describe theitr personal experience
    “UNDER CONDITIONS OF CONTINUED PRAYER AND UPWARD EXTENSION THAT HAVE AS CLIMAX THE UNION WITH GOD, MAN IS POSSESSED ENTIRELY FROM LIGHT OF DIVINE GLORY THAT IS SEND FOURTH ETERNALLY FROM THE TRIAD. AFTER THE MIND IS SEIZED FROM THE DIVINE LIGHT AND ENTERS THE LIGHT IT BECOMES ITS SELF-LIGHT. THUS LIKE LIGHT, IT SEES LIGHT”

    The vision of Divine Light (returning to God’s presence)
    This is what Lord Jesus told St. Symeon when He became worthy to His presence in His divine Light.
    “It is me, God, Who became man for you; and behold that I have made you, as you see, and shall make you god”.
    http://www.monachos.net/content/patristics/studies-fathers/67

    Understanding the Orthodox Christian Faith


  4. MrJohnnyjeyy says:

    Why are all the fundytards even bothering to seek out this video if, they are anti EO to begin with?
    Stupid people, I tell ya!

  5. Kate B says:

    I am a cradle Roman Catholic and considering Orthodoxy, especially after seeing videos on youtube of the Vatican choir singing worship to 'Lucifer' in prominent services like Easter. Theologians argue that the Latin word "Lucifer" refers to the 'star of the morning' mentioned in the Bible which refers to Jesus Christ. This is causing a lot of confusion for me. Was the Latin secret sacred language created by the Roman church meant to hide pagan worship?

    I have done a tiny bit of research about the original translations of the Bible and St Jerome may not have done such a good job of that in the 300's AD when he translated from Hebrew and Greek to Latin. In the past thousand years there have been countless translations that are not even monitored by the Vatican. Now, we have English translations from the badly translated Latin versions. Apparently, the Greek Bible is the most authentic version.

    So, my question is: Does the Orthodox church have any reference to Lucifer or the 'star of the morning' referring to both Satan and Jesus Christ?

  6. Ioakim makis says:

    Jesus Has Risen, after this the correct reply is Truly He Has Risen and NOT Surely He has Risen. Surely is a lot different from Truly.

  7. IBA TAN says:

    I would rather ask and learn about the deep details of the faith instead of talking about the superficial secondary things that are irrelevant- although desired- to our salvation.May our ONLY Lord and God, Jesus Christ The Greatest Ever, bless and protect all of you, your Families, your Friends and your Loved Ones for ever…Amen

  8. Teresa Williams says:

    I see the arrogant protestants are hear to argue rather than learn.

  9. Preston Turco says:

    Did he just say forgive me, they think this is Catholic, Krishna in reference to incense? I'm curious about this accusation. I simply love how "christians", small c intentional, attack/malign fellow Christians. Sorry but frankly if you engage in this derisive behavior then you do not serve Christ or his message. Oh yes by all means ascribe all manner of evil to the Catholic church instead of addressing your all falsehoods and shortcomings. Catholics DO NOT worship or exalt Mary above Christ, nor does the Catholic church teach or encourage this. Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. What a foolish, misguided, disingenuous and false representation of Catholicism. Lets be frank, open and honest, do NOT confuse ritual with a persons actual belief and faith. There are humans in all Christian systems, Catholic, Orthodox and Protestant that practice their PERSONAL faith in Christ separate from the rituals of their particular flavor of Christianity. Secularism is growing, Atheism has become hyper-aggressive and Islam is entering former bastions of Christianity. Perhaps your energies would be more fruitful in engaging in ecumenicism and bringing Christians together in the salvation of Christ and his message then the worldly function of separation and categorization of ritual and tradition.

  10. Amida says:

    Great videos Dave, hope you become Orthodox one day!

  11. Hana Menker says:

    The reason why people would not say her name is Mary our mother. Because of the devil holding them.

  12. Dave Bartosiewicz says:

    If there are any who would like to financially support our kickstarter account with Father Justin, that would be such a blessing. We have many series that will be develop to inform many on Eastern Orthodoxy. Please Donate. Blessings. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1312925165/walking-the-way-with-father-justin-an-orthodox-pri?ref=nav_search

  13. Richard Benitez says:

    I'm sure Fr Justin meant to emphasize that incense is not just a physical symbol of making holy and of purifying a space for a sacred. Incense is very much part of what God has asked human to do to make the holy and the sacred. BTW, Fr Justin is a very good and knowledgeable priest i can see.

  14. janan barbar says:

    One of the icons of the Theotokos painted by St Luke is in the convent of our Lady of Saidnaya Syria .

  15. Mapleberry Farm says:

    That man needs some sleep!

  16. Richard Benitez says:

    Fr Justin is of course simplifying the tradition of what an Icon is: It really irritates me Protestants have such a narrow idea of God's kingdom and who God is that they are unable to reflect on those human's whose lives are so outstanding in witness to God. To actively "forget" is like trashing JC's followers. I remember reading a history of the "Belgian Congo" and King Leopoldo of Belgium from a best seller by Adam Hochschild. The colonial activities of the White Fathers of Africa (priests) and others were described along with the amazing activities of this American protestant pastor, named Simpson?. Americans wanted to know more about this minister long forgotten by his own church. To the press, this Protestant theologian prof says "Simpson?" … oh… that guy.. yeah .. protestants have a bad habit of forgetting our heroic followers…. oh well." Weird.

  17. Alik vKingis says:

    I do not light candles for dead. the dead are dead. We do not believe in purgatory either is nonsense

  18. Alik vKingis says:

    I think it is so funny how Protestant think denominations are pleasing to God like He ever said to divide the body of Christ into sects. the word says unity in body. Let's admit that we are all fallen and need Holy Spirits direction

  19. Joshua Harmening says:

    I am a convert to Orthodoxy and had the pleasure to meet Fr. Justin. What a humble and brilliant man of God!

    Christ Is Risen!

  20. bowrudder says:

    I noticed at the end of the video you put up a message "If you like what you see…", and then show lots of icons. But according to the 2nd Commandment, you're not supposed to make images of anything in heaven or on the earth or in the waters and bow down to them. But Orthodox do:






    You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:4-6)

    A video arguing against icons:

  21. Richard Mohr says:

    Skeptics: Please read Malachi 1:11.

    "For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts."

    Incense, folks. That has been fulfilled wherever the Orthodox Church has been. Do you use incense at your church? Isn't it part of your tradition? Why not? Because men decided that it wasn't necessary – just like they decided about icons.

    If you believe in the Incarnation, then icons of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and of those that are in Christ are not a problem. The absence of them is a problem.

  22. bowrudder says:

    I was surprised to hear the man on the left say that we are NOT ALL saints (3:36). What went on in the church of Corinth was scandalous, and yet Paul referred to those in the church as saints (1 Cor 1:2). You are sanctified by Christ (1 Cor 1:2). You have HIS righteousness (2 Cor 5:21). How could you be anything OTHER THAN a saint?? I seriously don't understand.

  23. Smoked Pork Ribs says:

    Good video, Mr. Bartosiewicz! I am Orthodox Christian =) … lots of angry people from Pulpet and Pen coming in oh well.

  24. Arnold Bernstein says:

    Dave, another inspiring interview. Thanks! With regards to so called "bells and smells" lots of Christians forget that much of that – God Himself directed His People in the Old Testament to have in the ancient Temple in Jerusalem. – It was to reflect on earth worship in heaven. Being a convert to Orthodox Christianity from Judaism I wrote a booklet explaining the fulfillment of Judaism in Orthodox Christianity. It is called Orthodoxy: Jewish and Christian and can be gotten here: http://store.ancientfaith.com/orthodoxy-jewish-and-christian/
    God Bless your ministry. Arnold Bernstein aka Father James Bernstein

  25. Adam Goodword says:

    Why are you referring to this man as "father". There is only one father and that is God!!
    Why are you even talking to him? This church belongs to the Ecumenical Movement.
    I certainly hope you are there to try and call out the sheep and not lead the sheep to this heresy.

  26. datchet11 says:

    “As Peter entered the house, Cornelius met him and fell at his feet in reverence. But Peter made him get up. ‘Stand up,’ he said, ‘I am only a man myself.’”
    ‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:25-26‬

  27. Gmama 10 says:

    This man thinks that the disciples are there??????

  28. isthechurchtrue says:

    Jeremiah 44: 18 "But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven , and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine."
    Careful you dont worship false gods with incense

  29. Labu Ex says:

    Romans 1:7, all Christians are called saints, not just the 'special ones'

  30. bowrudder says:

    Christ tore down the veil. What's that iconostasis doing there separating us from the alter?

  31. Odyc Mboden says:

    The EO church is apostate. They deny justification by faith in Christ alone.

  32. 12345soccerguy says:

    Finally this church is getting recognition. I'm Russian and the western world only concerns with addressing the corruption of Catholicism (western), and not Orthodoxy (eastern).